Comments on: Going a Little Farther http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/ Sun, 15 Aug 2010 17:42:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Bryant http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/comment-page-1/#comment-500 Bryant Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:08:07 +0000 http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/#comment-500 @Jillyshelly Fair enough. I totally agree with you. The good pastor/church should thoroughly cover the entire Bible and all its aspects. However, I've seen far too many pastors and churches hyperfocus on the little academic details. Every single time I've seen this happen, it spawns massive egos and ultimately becomes more about scholarly debate than living it out in the world. In fact, I would define intellectualism as intelligence + pride. Of course, there's absolutely nothing wrong (and I would encourage everyone to do it if they can keep their pride in check) with in-depth research in to the tiniest crevices of Scripture, as long as you're applying that knowledge to your everyday life and using it to show the world the glory of God. @Jillyshelly

Fair enough. I totally agree with you. The good pastor/church should thoroughly cover the entire Bible and all its aspects. However, I’ve seen far too many pastors and churches hyperfocus on the little academic details. Every single time I’ve seen this happen, it spawns massive egos and ultimately becomes more about scholarly debate than living it out in the world. In fact, I would define intellectualism as intelligence + pride.

Of course, there’s absolutely nothing wrong (and I would encourage everyone to do it if they can keep their pride in check) with in-depth research in to the tiniest crevices of Scripture, as long as you’re applying that knowledge to your everyday life and using it to show the world the glory of God.

]]> By: Jillyshelly http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/comment-page-1/#comment-496 Jillyshelly Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:57:26 +0000 http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/#comment-496 2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. I think scripture reminds us that in order to live out the "basic" commands, it helps to know all of the Word. So in that sense, I do think pastors need to teach the "deeper things." I think there comes a time when a pastor needs to trust the Holy Spirit with his flock... trust God's Word and stop spoon-feeding people. (I'm not suggesting that the previously mentioned pastor did that... intentionally anyway.) The more you know about the entire Bible, the more God's glory is evident... so let's get the full picture of his glory so we can better reflect it! 2 Timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

I think scripture reminds us that in order to live out the “basic” commands, it helps to know all of the Word. So in that sense, I do think pastors need to teach the “deeper things.” I think there comes a time when a pastor needs to trust the Holy Spirit with his flock… trust God’s Word and stop spoon-feeding people. (I’m not suggesting that the previously mentioned pastor did that… intentionally anyway.) The more you know about the entire Bible, the more God’s glory is evident… so let’s get the full picture of his glory so we can better reflect it!

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/comment-page-1/#comment-492 Jonathan Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:17:02 +0000 http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/#comment-492 MGEO, I think you might have described Mark Driscoll... not sure... MGEO,

I think you might have described Mark Driscoll… not sure…

]]> By: MGEO http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/comment-page-1/#comment-491 MGEO Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:41:03 +0000 http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/#comment-491 I feel God gave us big brains for a reason. Also, people tend to study that which interest them most. If you approach your faith as an academic endeavor, you will find it easier to speak about your faith with people who consider themselves academics. As quite a few (certainly not all) academics are agnostic atheist, or secularist, and you are called to spread the "Good News," this can help you on the path you set out. It has long been my belief that people naturally become leaders because they have one of three possible superior qualities. They are either physically, mentally, or ethically superior to most. physically is the easiest to understand. It's "survival of the fittest." If I'm the baddest kid on the block, then I'm in charge. Mentally would speak to your academia, the intellectuals. Ethically would just be "living it." I would view the ideal pastor as a person with mental and ethical toughness, and if he is physically tough as well, all the better. The world is full of challenges. I think people should strive for success in every arena they can. Wouldn't success by a man of God glorify God? I feel God gave us big brains for a reason. Also, people tend to study that which interest them most. If you approach your faith as an academic endeavor, you will find it easier to speak about your faith with people who consider themselves academics. As quite a few (certainly not all) academics are agnostic atheist, or secularist, and you are called to spread the “Good News,” this can help you on the path you set out. It has long been my belief that people naturally become leaders because they have one of three possible superior qualities. They are either physically, mentally, or ethically superior to most. physically is the easiest to understand. It’s “survival of the fittest.” If I’m the baddest kid on the block, then I’m in charge. Mentally would speak to your academia, the intellectuals. Ethically would just be “living it.” I would view the ideal pastor as a person with mental and ethical toughness, and if he is physically tough as well, all the better. The world is full of challenges. I think people should strive for success in every arena they can. Wouldn’t success by a man of God glorify God?

]]> By: Bryant http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/comment-page-1/#comment-489 Bryant Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:04:21 +0000 http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/#comment-489 From time to time, I find myself wishing that whatever church I'm at would "go deeper". This usually happens when I'm doing an absolutely atrocious job of loving the Lord with all my heart, soul, and mind and loving my neighbor as myself. I imagine that my wish to "go deeper" is usually just a veiled attempt at trying to make up for my lack of action with intellectualism. From time to time, I find myself wishing that whatever church I’m at would “go deeper”. This usually happens when I’m doing an absolutely atrocious job of loving the Lord with all my heart, soul, and mind and loving my neighbor as myself. I imagine that my wish to “go deeper” is usually just a veiled attempt at trying to make up for my lack of action with intellectualism.

]]> By: Dark Lord Imhotep http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/comment-page-1/#comment-488 Dark Lord Imhotep Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:07:57 +0000 http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/#comment-488 See, I have mixed feelings about the matter. On the one hand, I DO feel like sometimes I wish my church would "go deeper". Whenever I'm given the opportunity to do so, it seems to wipe me out. I just...don't want to do it. And I think that aversion comes from the fact that everytime I get involved with something, I end up being put into a leadership position. Even at other churches. And I'm tired of it! I don't want to be a leader. So I will remain quiet and ignorant so I don't keep getting put in front. And Don, if its fine with you, I'm content to maintain my anonymity on your board. See, I have mixed feelings about the matter. On the one hand, I DO feel like sometimes I wish my church would “go deeper”. Whenever I’m given the opportunity to do so, it seems to wipe me out. I just…don’t want to do it. And I think that aversion comes from the fact that everytime I get involved with something, I end up being put into a leadership position. Even at other churches. And I’m tired of it! I don’t want to be a leader. So I will remain quiet and ignorant so I don’t keep getting put in front.

And Don, if its fine with you, I’m content to maintain my anonymity on your board.

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/comment-page-1/#comment-487 Jonathan Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:55:19 +0000 http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/#comment-487 Sorry, I guess I don't make sense at times. Sorry, I guess I don’t make sense at times.

]]> By: Don http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/comment-page-1/#comment-486 Don Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:06:31 +0000 http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/#comment-486 I'm sorry, What? I’m sorry,
What?

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/comment-page-1/#comment-485 Jonathan Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:30:20 +0000 http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/#comment-485 Sorry, I couldn't help it Sorry, I couldn’t help it

]]> By: Jonathan http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/comment-page-1/#comment-484 Jonathan Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:29:50 +0000 http://www.youseedrybones.com/going-a-little-farther/#comment-484 "You have said it yourself. . . ." (<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%2026:64;&version=49;" rel="nofollow">see here</a>) “You have said it yourself. . . .” (see here)

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